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My initial comment on Luke 14:33:

Luke 14:33

33 So likewise, whosoever he be of you that forsaketh not all that he hath, he
cannot be my disciple.

To me this says that to be a Christian you must give away everything that you have.
This says to me that there is a way of telling if someone is a Christian.

(1) If the person has no wealth, there is a possibility that he is a Christian.

(2) If the person has anything, he is definitely not a disciple of Jesus.

G. e-mail:

>I believe your reference in Luke 14 is accurate, but, the conclusion drawn from
than reference may not be so accurate.

33...SO THEREFORE, NO ONE OF YOU...The Lord asked for intelligent
appraisal of the cost of discipleship and for complete renunciation of all claims to
one's own life.

My reply:

Luke 14:33

33 So likewise, whosoever he be of you that forsaketh not all that he hath, he cannot
be my disciple.

This is about as clear as one can be. If you want to be a disciple of Jesus, then you'll have
to surrender all material possessions, as he did. Read Matt. 19:21. When the rich ruler in
Mark 10:17-22 asked what he had to do in order to inherit eternal life, he was told by
Jesus that he had to follow the commandments Jesus listed. When the young ruler
replied that he had observed them from his youth, Jesus said, "You lack one thing;
go sell what you have, and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven."
A true follower of Jesus would have to be extremely poor -- as poor as the homeless.
Luke 14:33 requires this of a follower of Jesus.

Now let's be serious! Except for some monks, nuns, and other ascetics does anyone
know of any Christians who would give up all they have in order to follow Jesus?
Of course not! But that is clearly what is required. Read Mark 8:34. Notice that
Jesus says any man, not just those he is addressing at that particular time.
What about Billy Graham, the Pope, Jerry Falwell and others?
What are they denying themselves? The answer is nothing. They get the best
of everything, the finest life has to offer.


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