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ridd1
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(12/3/01 10:46:04 pm)
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'The RCA' - (Rivers Correspondence Archive)
I have this idea that I want to run by a few people here. I was thinking of creating a sort of 'archive' on weezon.com with all the correspondence we've all gotten from Rivers so far. It could be a section of the site that could be constantly updated as new emails come in. The only downfall of an idea like this would be attracting more attention to the matter, and perhaps this board, but there are ways around that. Currently there is no link on weezon to the rebel weezer board, nor are there any plans for one. So that could possibly avoid an influx of too many people. Anyway, it's just an idea for now, I havn't even talked to Jason about it yet. But I for one would like to see all this great stuff collected and archived for us fans. Please discuss and let me know what you think. If you're in, you can start by forwarding me any emails you have exchanged with Rivers over the past little while. If you prefer to keep them to yourself, more power to you.

- Ridd


eXxy
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(12/3/01 10:55:50 pm)
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i think the idea to have an archive is sound, but it might be a better idea to create the page, and simply pass the link from person to person instead of having it on one central site (especailly one becoming as popular as weezon.com).

because you are right, it would be a shame for rivers to take the time to personally respond to all those letters (and to all the people who have publically shown what they have written) and then have them die off into the vortex of dead threads.

-patrick

ŗIšm sure the Deftones and Slayer drive around listening to them once a day ­ Išm just waiting for Missy Elliott to wear a Weezer shirt in a video.˛ - Dismemberment Planšs Travis Morrison

gogokain
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(12/3/01 11:02:38 pm)
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I agree with eXxy.



"....is dan a fucker? yes, he is."


Read my lyrics, or else Dan will give you one brutal BJ.

ridd1
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(12/3/01 11:17:19 pm)
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Makes sense. I can do that. I 'll create space for it in on my server, and we'll take it from there. I may make a discussion board on the same page (to discuss only the letters - I don't want it to become a rebel rebel board).

Anyway, if you're in, email me your Rivers correspondence to ridd@weezon.com and we'll go from there.

Edited by: ridd1 at: 12/3/01 11:39:29 pm
sinnsyk
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(12/3/01 11:40:27 pm)
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good idea Ridd.


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MarshallAmpJane
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(12/3/01 11:57:16 pm)
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basically we are back to the idea from last night but it's on weezon.com? i thought we were gonna wait because the idea was shelved.

Shefik 
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(12/4/01 12:12:31 am)
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Good idea - the setting up of webspace and word-of-mouth spreading of the link to it.

Shawn

ridd1
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(12/4/01 12:16:13 am)
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No - it's a lot different then last night. I know it sounds familiar, but the purpose is just to collect all the correspondence in one place so fans can review and (possibly) discuss. It wouldn't be exclusive or elitist by any means. Rivers letters could still be posted and discussed here at ther Rebel Board. My page would be for people who have recieved letters and whoever they wish to share the link with. I really want to avoid this becoming a rerun of last night. That's not my intention. Patrick is right - it would be a shame to have all this correspondence just die off. Please don't misunderstand my intentions.


MarshallAmpJane
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(12/4/01 12:27:46 am)
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so you are not gonna post the archive link on the board?

eXxy
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(12/4/01 12:33:17 am)
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i believe ridd intends to post a link to the archive on the board, but not the other way around. people should have the chance to appreciate what has happened, but if what the board has been able to accomplish becomes too widespread, it'd be easy for it to backfire.

-patrick

ŗIšm sure the Deftones and Slayer drive around listening to them once a day ­ Išm just waiting for Missy Elliott to wear a Weezer shirt in a video.˛ - Dismemberment Planšs Travis Morrison

ridd1
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(12/4/01 12:40:02 am)
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I think eventually yes I will post the link here - with permission from the correspondants. But only once everything is together and the responses from Rivers die down (which they will). See, some people are hesitant to post their letters here for various, valid reasons. By giving them a secure place to share and (maybe) discuss, they might reconsider. I'm not in favour of never posting any letters in this forum - I'll post mine if I'm lucky enough to get any more - I just think an alternative needs also to be offered. Jane I think I understand your concerns, but this is not the same as a password protected, rebel weezer board 'members only' type thing. I'm not even sure about creating a 'RCA' messageboard - it was just a sort of fleeting idea - and maybe not a real good one. But you can't object to the importance of collecting this stuff in an archive of some sort, can you?


Edited by: ridd1 at: 12/4/01 12:43:18 am
dopenose
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(12/4/01 12:44:09 am)
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I'm not sure Rivers even sends out enough emails to warrant a messageboard of their own, but the idea of an archive is a good one. Got any easy way of verifying these emails? Not the ones we've already discussed in here, it's pretty clear which of those are legit, but inviting submissions.....never know what you're gonna get....

MarshallAmpJane
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(12/4/01 12:50:04 am)
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We all share the same concerns here.
your idea has the same components(viewing of letters, possible discussion) as the idea we discussed last night. except yours doesn't have a password but only word of mouth secrecy among letter writers only.
Same idea as i see it but a much greater low profile and restriction. i'm trying not to be argumentative. i wanna sort through this as much as you.

I've already started an email but i am afraid i will repeat the same opinions and concerns that other people have already written. So you see why i want to find a good solution to all this.

gogokain
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(12/4/01 1:11:51 am)
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Jane, I have the best thread ever, why am I not a mod?



"....is dan a fucker? yes, he is."


Read my lyrics, or else Dan will give you one brutal BJ.

ridd1
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(12/4/01 1:12:54 am)
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Jane - I think I've really said all I can say on this. I really hate to beat a dead horse, but yes, the link would be shared only among people who have recieved Rivers replies, and whoever these people choose to share the link with. The purpose of this is to create a non-threatening place where people might feel less uneasy about posting their correspondence. After it all dies down, everyone will have a chance to follow the link and read everything, as long as the people who write the letters approve. I think this idea is fair to everyone involved.
Granted, the separate message board idea was a bad one - I've already admitted that - it ain't going to happen, but an archive is so important for this. Yes, It might be kept exclusive to correspondants for a little bit, but eventually, everyone will get a chance to read. It's the only way I can see this working.
Dopenose - As for your other question about validity - I can verify through Karl if the emails are legit. They wouldn't be posted until he did.


MarshallAmpJane
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(12/4/01 1:17:27 am)
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"I've already started an email but i am afraid i will repeat the same opinions and concerns that other people have already written. So you see why i want to find a good solution to all this."

Are you trying to hear me out?

ridd1
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(12/4/01 1:27:42 am)
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Sorry Jane. I didn't really understand that so I didn't comment on it. You mean an email to Rivers, right? If so, yeah all the more important to have somewhere where people can review and gather info about what's being said. I really don't care if the link is posted on this board for all - my only concern is that people may hold back from sharing if this happens. I guess I need a better idea of how many correspondents would be willing to openly share. If there's enough, then yeah, I don't see a problem making the site readily accessible to everyone.


420PM
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(12/4/01 1:34:05 am)
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You could just start a thread on here and label it the RCA, and if anyone posts anything that is not an email from Rivers/Karl, or any other posts that aren't letters to/from Karl/Rivers, then you can delete them, and make it understood that anything that is found to be illegit will be deleted, if it's possible to keep up with that.

Other than that I don't see what the big deal is about posting replies on here for everyone to see. Rivers made it clear that everyone should be involved, but obviously we need to do it as a group so that we don't keep asking the same damn thing, or parts of stuff that has been answered. It's the whole dialouge thing.. new replies should be on relatively new threads so that we can all discuss them, but once they are a few days old and the next couple come out, we can archive them (chronologically of course). Moving still discussable replies to a "secret" page or keeping them to yourself is an example of the communication hoarding that we should avoid.

"Ain't nobody dope as me, I dress so fresh; so clean."

MarshallAmpJane
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(12/4/01 1:35:58 am)
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wait accessible to everybody?
i thought you said this is only for people who have gotten a response from rivers, right?


thats means im booted out from reading the emails. i like reading them here and talking about it with everybody so i could understand and get my shit together to write a good email then. also. i don't want to repeat former ideas that gogo or anyone else wrote to rivers.

Edited by: MarshallAmpJane at: 12/4/01 2:15:09 am
ridd1
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(12/4/01 1:59:38 am)
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I'm trying to find middle ground here. I said if enough ppl come forward and are comfortable with sharing with everyone, so be it. If not, it needs to be kept relatively quiet. I really don't think the later will be the case though, as most people have posted their correspondence here anyway.

Jane - you made a good point. Let's just settle it and say that I will make the site and post whatever people send me (once they're verified by Karl). I will post the link here. If you don't want everybody, their dog, and their dog's fleas reading it, don't send it to me. Because it seems that lately everybody, their dog, and their dog's fleas have joined us since this whole thing started.

If this sounds good, forward me your mail and I'll get things going. Some have already sent me some. Thanks for that. Let's all work together to keep this excellent correspondence with Rivers archived.

That's all I'm going to say about this until I have a link set up. I need to get some work done and go to bed.


Edited by: ridd1 at: 12/4/01 2:00:08 am
MarshallAmpJane
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(12/4/01 2:16:31 am)
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dog's fleas ay? interesting.

good we have some understanding.
hopefully.

ridd1
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(12/4/01 2:22:00 am)
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Yes we do.. hopefully. The dog's fleas thing wasn't meant to insult anyone by the way... shit - here we go again...

MarshallAmpJane
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(12/4/01 2:24:53 am)
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no insult taken. dont worry.

rezeeWeerez
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(12/4/01 8:56:42 am)
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I'll forward my email from the man named cuomo...but i want to see that karl email where he says its cool about the discussions


I like the idea...it would make it easier to share rivers' emails...if he sends more.


"My name is weezer"

Edited by: rezeeWeerez at: 12/4/01 11:05:53 am
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