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Peter Neville-Hadley is the moderator of the free Internet mailing list for the discussion of China travel, The Oriental-List. He's also the co-author, development editor, editor, reader, or updater of China guides for Cadogan, Odyssey, Frommer's, and Dorling Kindersley (Eyewitness), and the author of Beijing and the The Silk Routes of which reviews can be found below.

The Oriental-List

THE ORIENTAL-LIST is a moderated list for those who prefer to discuss travel in China or have their questions answered without wading through irrelevant cross-postings and 'spam'.

Now more than eight years old and with several hundred members, the list provides a forum for the discussion of travel in China, and across China's borders to the nearest major centres, such as Almaty, Bishkek, Islamabad, Kathmandu, Hanoi, and Ulaan Baatar. Practical travel queries; discussions of the merits of individual destinations or routes; accounts of individual experiences; historical and cultural material relevant to China travel; reviews and notifications of other China travel resources (publications, websites, public lectures, etc); political, legal, and ethical matters to do with travel in China; and China travel news items are all welcome.

The list is moderated, with the intention of keeping it free, as far as possible, from intolerant, irrelevant, and immoderate postings, and from commercial postings and 'spam'. The list of members is not made available to any individual or third party organisation. Membership is, of course, free, and members include those planning their first trips to China, experienced Asia travellers, and professional travel writers.

Once you subscribe you will receive full guidelines on how the list works, and will begin to receive copies of postings made by others. There's no requirement to make a posting yourself, but you can join in debate or supply answers to others' queries simply by replying to the list address. The list doesn't deal with queries which can easily be answered by looking in guide books, but all others which comply with a few simple format guidelines usually receive a reply from a knowledgeable source. If you find the list not to your taste, resigning from it is as easy as joining.

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'a great guidebook... an infectious, informative read' TIME
'While guidebooks are rarely read for pleasure, this one offers an argument for the armchair. Fun but authoritative, the book is written in the strong voice of someone who loves poking around Beijing's hutongs, buzzing with pleasure at each new find... old China hands will even learn a thing or two. And the well-worn tourist attractions like the Forbidden City are given a new spin in a refreshing break from all the been-there-seen-that guides on the shelf.' TIME

'More than comprehensive' Holiday Asia

Cadogan's new 422-page guide to China's capital, twice the size of most others, takes you not only round the imposing remnants of imperial grandeur, but into warrens of ancient housing, to remote temples in leafy countryside, and to the bustling markets and glittering nightlife of the new economy. Dozens of day trips take you out of the capital to multiple Great Wall sites, elaborate tomb complexes, and bizarre museums, and further afield to the mountain and seaside playgrounds of the emperors and their modern successors.

Immensely practical and detailed coverage of sights, restaurants, hotels, shopping and transport options, many yet to be discovered by other guides

Chinese characters throughout help you find your own way around, and order yourself the best of Chinese cooking from street snacks to banquets

Thoroughly researched accommodation guide gives both the most comprehensive budget listings in print and the best of the middle and luxury markets

'The best series of them all' The Sunday Times

For a more detailed description and reader reviews, click here.

CHINA The Silk Routes

'This book is thorough on a huge swathe of Asia, stretching from the Chinese capital to the very heart of Central Asia' The Independent on Sunday
'The best guidebook to the region' Reuters

'A heroic one-man enterprise' The Daily Telegraph

This indispensable guide to Western China and beyond takes you by bus, train, jeep and donkey cart down busy highways and unsurfaced back roads rarely visited by foreigners, around desert fringes, through remote border crossings and over high passes to the ancient bazaars of Chinese Central Asia. From Beijing and Xi'an in the east and Islamabad, Bishkek and Almaty in the west, it helps you to make your own way along the tangle of old trade routes which connect them.

Intelligent, entertaining introductions to the traders, explorers, military expeditions and migrations that preceded you

In-depth coverage of the sights from the Terracotta Warriors and the Great Wall to remote Buddhist cave temples

Immensely detailed, practical advice on acquiring awkward visas, deciphering Chinese menus, buying tickets, avoiding overcharging, haggling for souvenirs, picking the right hotels, and more

'Excellent' The Sunday Telegraph

The Cadogan version of this title is now out of print, but it is still widely available second-hand. For a more detailed description and reader reviews, click here.