Hi Mark,

My name is William Thornton-Trump, and I am the eldest grandchild of Olga
(nee Lund) and Walter Thornton-Trump. I was most interested to see your Lund
Family page, forwarded to me by my cousin Marni, who I think has already
written to you. It is fascinating to see that I am related to so many people
that I wasn't aware of!

Anyway, there is information that I would like to share with you, as well as
a couple of questions that I would like to ask. Do I have your correct
e-mail address? Please confirm that, as I don't want to write too much until
I'm sure that I'm getting through.

A couple of things, though, that I could mention and that Marni might have
mentioned already. My grandmother, Olga, died on June 15, 1977. (I was at
the funeral, as was Marni. I was 40 years old at the time, so I knew her
well for a long time.) She died in Los Angeles or, more correctly, Seal
Beach, California, where she lived her final years at Leisure World. Long
before her death she had arranged to have her remains sent back to Canada
and buried beside her husband at Forest Lawn Cemetery in Burnaby, British
Columbia. (Her husband, Walter, had died in 1956. I can't give you an exact
date.)

If I can give you any more information, please let me know.

Sincerely,
Bill.

PS. I have a copy of a very old photograph of Hans Lund's parents in
Denmark. Unfortunately it is undated, but it looks as if photography hadn't
been around long at the time it was taken.

Will Trump
Surrey, B.C.
Canada

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Subject:    Re: Lund history
Date:        Tue, 15 May 2001 20:38:21 -0700
From:       William Thornton-Trump
To:        Mark Lund <lundm@powersurfr.com>

Mark,

Thank you for your reply. This is getting very interesting.

>I see some discrepancy between your notes and my fathers (P.A./"Bud" Lund) in
>that he has your Grandmother Olga buried in the Red Deer Cemetary (as per the
>Lund Family Illustrated History).

Actually, my mother, Belva, Olga's eldest child, was born in Red Deer but
the family moved to Vancouver when Olga's children were still quite young. I
had no idea, until your illustrated history, that there were still so many
Lunds in the Red Deer area (which is a place I've never been). My
grandfather, Walter Thornton-Trump, worked as a salesman, and later sales
manager, for Bapco Paints in Vancouver and retired in that position in the
early 1950's. Until his death in 1956 he and Olga lived in retirement in
Langley, BC, which was then a rural area near Vancouver and is now a sort of
bedroom community for Vancouver. Some years after his death Olga moved to
Los Angeles, where she still had 2 sons living. (She had 6 children in all;
two of whom predeceased her.)

>If there is any chance you could have the old photo of Hans's parents "scanned"
>I sure would appreciate a "digital" file for posting to the web site.  Our
local
>London Drugs does provide a "scanning" service!

I didn't know about the scanning service. I phoned London Drugs and they
said they do have such a service here too, so yes, I'll definitely get the
photo scanned soon and send it to you. In fact, I'll also scan a photo I
have of Hans in his later years, wearing a neat black suit and standing very
tall and straight. As well as that, I'll send a photo of his wife, Anna,
sewing. She looks so much like Olga that when I was a child I thought that
was who it was, but my grandmother told me no, that it was HER mother. It's
a photo that I've seen all my life. It used to stand on her mantle.

In 1972, when Olga was 87 years old and visiting me in Vancouver on her last
visit from Los Angeles, I did an interview with her on audio tape all about
her life and her background. Marni and I are working on getting that onto
disk, and when we do we'll send it to you.

>"How and Why" Hans Lund and his brothers
>immigrated,

My grandmother always said, as your notes also indicate, that Hans, who
loved Denmark, did not want to be drafted into the annexing Prussian army.

 who were his brothers, and which made the attempt to reach the
>Klondike through Edmonton?

Until perusing your history, I had never heard of any brothers (I found your
father's notes most interesting in that regard). I had never heard of the
attempt to reach the Klondike, either. It seems that some stories are
preserved in some family branches, others in other branches. Fascinating stuff.

By the way, I remember meeting Marie and Walt Nielsen and their children,
Shala and Lou, when I was a teenager. My cousin Penny (daughter of Bev,
Olga's eldest son) keeps in touch with Shala. I understand that at the
moment Shala is teaching in Japan.

I see that you have a son named Hans Lund. I'm sure the Patriarch would be
very pleased.

I'll be in touch again soon.

Best,

Bill

Will Trump
Surrey, B.C.
Canada

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Subject:    Anna Moller Lund
Date:        Wed, 16 May 2001 20:08:04 -0700
From:       William Thornton-Trump
To:        Mark Lund <lundm@powersurfr.com>

On the back of this photo my Aunt Jean (Olga's daughter, Marni's mother) has
written:

"Grandma Lund
Born May 8th, 1850 - 1926
Elba, So. Schleswig
Immigrated 1865"

Will Trump
Surrey, B.C.
Canada

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Subject:        Hans Lund's parents
Date:        Wed, 16 May 2001 20:10:00 -0700
From:        William Thornton-Trump
To:        Mark Lund <lundm@powersurfr.com>

Dates and Christian names unknown.

On the back my aunt has written:

"Our great-grandparents
Grandpa Lund's father and mother."

Will Trump
Surrey, B.C.
Canada

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Subject:        Hans Ivor Lund
Date:        Wed, 16 May 2001 20:09:24 -0700
From:        William Thornton-Trump <trump@istar.ca>
To:        Mark Lund <lundm@powersurfr.com>

On back:

"Hans Ivor Lund
Born Sept. 9, 1845
Died 1936
Immigrated 1865"

Will Trump
Surrey, B.C.
Canada

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Subject:    family histories
Date:        Sun, 20 May 2001 20:04:49 -0700
From:       William Thornton-Trump
To:           Mark Lund <lundm@powersurfr.com>

Mark,

Before anybody starts to wonder about this, I want to give you a brief bit
of my own history. I mentioned that my mother, Belva, was Olga's eldest
child, so her maiden name was Thornton-Trump. Belva married a man named
Alexander Lyttle, so my brother Sandy (Alexander) and I were born with the
surname Lyttle.

However, Belva died in 1949 when she was not quite 40  years old, and my
father, feeling that he couldn't look after us, left us with Olga's youngest
son, Ted and his wife and they adopted us. Their name was of course
Thornton-Trump and so we took their surname, which was our own mother's
maiden name. (That means that Olga was my grandmother two ways - naturally
and also by adoption!)

I would like to know whether you know if there are any vision problems in
the descendents of your grandfather's sisters (Cala, Myrtle, etc.). Among
some of the male descendents of Olga, myself included, there is an
hereditary eye disease called Retinitis Pigmentosa.
In our branch of the family the females carry the condition (but don't
actually have symptoms themselves) and each of their male descendents has a
50% chance of developing it. Each of her female descendents has a 50% chance
of being a carrier. All this has been known only in the past couple of decades.

Now, in our branch of the family there is a story that Hans Lund went blind
in his old age. We figure that it must have been Retinitis Pigmentosa
(although the disease hadn't yet been discovered then). In our family it
tends to begin rather later than usual and progress more slowly than usual -
a blessing. (I'm 64 and have been legally blind since age 46, but still have
not bad very narrow vision straight in front of me in good light.)

Daughters of affected fathers are carriers. We are pretty sure Olga was a
carrier. Two of her 4 sons had it. Belva was a carrier, obviously, since
both my brother Sandy and I have it.

You don't have to worry about it in your line. Sons of affected fathers and
all their descendents are free of it, I believe. Since your grandfather,
R.A. Lund (known in our branch as "Uncle Bob") was Hans's son, he would not
have inherited or passed it on. His sisters, however, would be carriers.

I'm pretty sure about the heredity pattern of this thing and so I'm curious
to know if it has been passed down to the descendents of any of my
great-aunts. If you have any information, or if your dad does, I'd be very
grateful to hear.

For me it has been little more than an inconvenience - I had to retire early
from high-school teaching and I haven't been able to drive for the past 18
years or so - but I have a daughter, Monica, who is scheduled to give birth
next week. She has not wanted to know in advance the sex of her baby, saying
that either one is fine with her, but of course she is a carrier and I find
myself hoping that it is a girl, although I shouldn't. Who knows? That could
mean something worse. We all have some defective genes.

Anyway, anything you could tell me I'd be grateful for.

I hope everybody has been enjoying the "historical" photos.

Best,

Bill.

Will Trump
Surrey, B.C.
Canada

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