Subject: Report - eTrex Venture under forest canopy Newsgroups: sci.geo.satellite-nav Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 22:53:34 -0700 I posted some info before about how my Venture performed in both dry and wet conditions nearby in a forested park in Vancouver. The other day I had a chance to test it in some forest near Squamish(this is on the road between Vancouver and Whistler). It was a dry, sunny day, and what I did was to go to a series of location where I usually go in the fall to find edible mushrooms. The forest for the first locations was primarily fir, logged about 70 years ago. The second area was also primarily fir, and has been logged in the past, but when they did so, they spaced the logging so that they left old-growth trees every 20-50 feet. At the time of day I was doing these tests, the satellite display indicated that there were 9 potential satellites. Some were low on the horizon, and the geometry was not the best, as one area of the sky had no potentially visible satellites at all. There were, if I remember correctly, 3 satellites that were 'pretty much overhead' (well within the 45 degree circle), which may have helped with getting signals through the canopy. The best I got, while under the canopy and trying to set a waypoint, was 5 signals, and reported accuracy of 8 metres. The worst was 3 signals, and 13m accuracy. Typical was 3 or 4 signals, with 10-11m accuracy. I tried setting a waypoint at 7 specific locations where I always return each year because I know that mushrooms grow in those spots. In each case, I was able to get enough signals to establish a waypoint at exactly the spot I wanted. I had the tracklog feature on during my walking from location to location, and was keeping an eye on the satellite display while walking. There were a few times when it reported a loss of signal, but in each case I found that if I moved a short distance(less than 20 feet) to where I though that the built-in antenna might get a better signal through the forest canopy, the signal was re-acquired, typically within 30 seconds, although sometimes to get at least 3 signals, I had to either move around a bit, or change the direction the Venture was pointing. As a tip, I noticed that when there was a loss of signal, moving to the closest spot where the sunshine was reaching the forest floor often enabled the signals to be received.